First And Final Warning: No Selling Of Services/cracks

[Psycho]

Originally Posted by Git

Private messages really are private.

Git

But what about if someone is trying to help you out here (but through PMs), so you share all of your information (like, send them a dongle dump and a copy of some software), and _THEN_ they say 'I can emulate/crack that, but I have to charge you $100s to do it...'?

That's been my only encounter with someone on this board (which really turned me off to the board in general, since I've assumed this was what all the users were attempting to do). If he had said up front that he was going to charge me, I wouldn't have bothered, but of course he waits until after he gets a copy of my software, and then screws me over. Granted, I have to accept some of the blame for sharing the software in the first place... Call it a moment of foolish trust.

[pivasik]

If somebody write a PM to you or you ask for help in PM you always must suppose that it will be commercial help. If somebody want to help you for free he/she will post information in the topic.
Once again, you must suppose the worst case.

[Git]

pscho - the forum admin clarified that in another message. If anybody offers you commercial solutions by PM they are breaking the forum rules and could be banned.

pivasik - what a sick view of the world. If somebody PM's me for help I will help them if I have tiime or tell them to get lost if I don't. The thought of charging money doesn't cross my mind, nor does it cross the mind of most people, who like to help other people and share their knowledge.

Git

[pivasik]

2 Git: nobody stops you or me to share our knowledge or help to others. But if you expect worst you always get better in result.

[Psycho]

Originally Posted by pivasik

If somebody write a PM to you or you ask for help in PM you always must suppose that it will be commercial help. If somebody want to help you for free he/she will post information in the topic.
Once again, you must suppose the worst case.

I have to agree, that is a pretty messed up way to think about things... That doesn't apply to any other forum I belong to. When people offer help, it's an offer of help. Not just trying to get money out of people. But, like you said, if you expect the worst I suppose it can only get better...

In order to get this kind of help, information has to be shared by both parties (and depending on their morals, there is potential gain by both parties). When he said 'I can emulate that, just send it to me first', I was not under any impression that he was going to _LATER_ say 'Oh, and you have to pay for it.'

The honest approach would have been to say he could _SELL_ me an emulator, but I have to give him my information first. At which point I would have politely declined, and that would have been the end of it (but, he wouldn't have a copy of the software...) For all I know, he's selling bootleg copies of the software (and my dongle) I sent all over the internet, and I have nothing to show for it... (Hopefully that's not the case, but that would be the worse-case scenario I suppose...)

[Git]

Hopefully that's not the case

Of course it is the case, why else do you think he/she wanted your info?

Git (expecting the worst)

[GNIREENIGNE]

I didn't want to start a thread about this without knowing, so I think it's best to post this question here.

Is it okay to discuss good/bad experiences and the legitimacy/reliability of popular dongle emulation services that are available online - in the event that someone is thinking about hiring a particular service for dongle emulation and would like to know, in advance, whether or not they are trustworthy etc.?

Thanks.
-G

[Git]

I don't know the admin's view, but in my opinion it is not relevant to reverse engineering, especially on a forum that does not allow discussion of commercial cracking. Also, making remarks about individuals is usually very bad news on any forum.

You time (and money) would be better spent on learning to do it yourself.

Let's get back to sharing technical knowledge.

Git

[流星1978]

today,i find one who maked the cr and want me to pay him money:hi,

I attached the picture of both software and he is working same one pc at a time,
I make the crack finished and both application perfectly working in my pc.

If you want the emulator password then you pay me 350USD, here is only way available
the westernunion, facilities, and here is my westernunion details.

First Name: Zeeshan
Last Name: Mehmood
City: Karachi
Country: Pakistan.

If you want learn the Hasphl full details I will provide you movie + software all hints + some private tools. which you don't get to the net.

Price is 500USD. you can crack every type of hasphl with it.

I send you all details, if you agree then tell me I am wating your reply.

Best Regards

his name here is:smithjsmi

[foffa]

@流星1978
how ever we dont want trade in our forum, that user contact you in private
any one else could contact you in private , soo it is up to you to talk to him or not

we dont want trade in puplic , forum for discuss not trade

i think this topic should be closed